What enthusiast's car does nothing for you?

"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg) 07/30/2014 at 15:05 • Filed to: None

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There are many cars for me that fall under this category. When I say, "Does nothing for you," what I mean is, it creates no emotional desire or excitement in you. It's different from not liking the car, you just would never have any wish to own one. For me, that would be the car which supposedly, we are all supposed to want more than our next breath of air; the Mazda MX-5 Miata. I respect it, I understand it, I will recommend it when I think it would be a good fit for someone, and I will defend it against all those who insult it. I get why it's a good sports car. But I have absolutely no desire to put one in my garage. I feel no emotions towards the Miata. I will not sit here and proclaim that "the answer is always Miata," because for me, unless I'm auto crossing, I'd just as soon have something else. There are other cars that I feel this way about. The BMW Z4, the Jeep Wrangler and the Ferrari FF are just a couple.

What about you? Which car do you respect, admire, and most importantly, understand why people love it, but you can't bring yourself to love it?

Brian Silvestro > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:06

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I love this question.

E46 M3.

Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:07

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Nissan 350Z/370Z/GTR, not even a wiggle, like pushing spaghetti noodles.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:07

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That one's close for me. I might own one, but I sure don't love it the way I feel like I should, or the way a lot of people do.

MIATAAAA > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:08

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:D

Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:08

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Woah, edgy man.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 07/30/2014 at 15:08

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^THIS^

AthomSfere > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:08

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Audi, any of them. Especially the R8 though. I mean, take a great car and stick an uninteresting body on it and call it an Audi.

Sportpackage > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:09

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The Nissan GT-R. It's fast, technological, and can beat cars twice it's price. Despite all that, I just really can't love it.

Brian Silvestro > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:09

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I really dislike the looks, but I've never driven one, so it's hard to say.

Rainbow > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:09

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I don't like Sileighties. Both cars look good on their own, and there is absolutely nothing to gain by combining the two. I'm sure they're not universally popular or anything, but they're easily the most common and well-known body conversion.

RallyWrench > Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 07/30/2014 at 15:09

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I feel that way about the 350. The 370 is a much better car. Haven't driven a GTR, so I'll reserve judgement.

Brian Silvestro > Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 07/30/2014 at 15:09

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I care for the E39 M5 even less.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:09

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Camaro SS. I just can't like it. It's cheap and ugly IMO. i'd rather have an R/T challenger or a GT mustang. Those arouse me a bit (especially the R/T!)

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AthomSfere 07/30/2014 at 15:10

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Since I asked the question I will accept any answer. My 2 Audis and I will be crying in the garage if you need me.

JK I could totally see where people find the styling bland, and the sedans to be identical to one another.

Shady Balkan Subject, Drives an Alfa > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:10

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Almost all of the super/hyper cars. They now feel too automatic and not enough character. Even the Lambos now have corporate faces... I am also absolutely sick of all the BMWs, except the new 2 Series coupe, but even it is not the thing I expected it to be.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:10

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;-(

Spaceball-Two > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:11

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The new Jeep Cherokee

WRXforScience > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:11

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Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, and Vipers are all impressive bruisers but their heft and stigma will always deter me from desiring them.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 07/30/2014 at 15:11

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I KNOW you knew I was going to say this.

HammerheadFistpunch > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:11

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supercars. Not true, I love seeing them, I love the engineering but the IDEA of supercars/hypercars...meh.

Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 > RallyWrench 07/30/2014 at 15:11

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Having driven both and trying to push the 370 even harder than a "i seriously give no fucks if this car gets totalled" 350z, I was completely underwhelmed. Deliberately trying to spin it and oversteering hard on mixed tarmac and gravel it just didn't make me feel anything.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Sportpackage 07/30/2014 at 15:11

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I forgot this one, but the GTR is a huge one for me. I have infinite respect for it, but not only don't I love it, I'm sick of reading about how great it is and how much HP it can be tuned for.

trmoore09 > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:12

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BLASPHEMY! jk. I'm just curious, why? Looks, performance, what?

camaroboy68ss > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:12

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pretty much everything that doesn't have a Bowtie on it. I would be happier in a Chevy celebrity than in a new viper.

trmoore09 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:13

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S2000 (for daily driver duties)

Brian Silvestro > trmoore09 07/30/2014 at 15:13

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Looks mostly, but I've never driven it so I'll hold judgment there.

Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:13

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Well, you're just a ... a... uhhhh ... hmmm ... big ole mean doodoo-head. I do like your St though.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:13

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This is going to ruffle some serious jimmies

Brian Silvestro > Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 07/30/2014 at 15:14

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Why thank you!

ly2v8-Brian > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:14

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Share this to the FP and sit back and watch the hate roll in.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 07/30/2014 at 15:14

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Not as many jimmies as M5s, Ranked

Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:14

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Messed around on a drizzly day on almost gone tires, it was much fun. And the noise, mmmmmmmmmmmmmhmhmmhmhmhmmmmmm the noise, actually gave me chills and cold sweats.

trmoore09 > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:15

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Fair enough. If you lived close enough, I'd let you drive mine. I am not too fond of the looks on a silver or black E46, but I love the LSB, Alpine White, and Imola Red.

Nibbles > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:15

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BRZ/FR-S

WRX/STi

Any Lamborghini product post Murcielago

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:15

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Miata: I'm just so meh about it. It's only good at one thing, and that's handling.

Mustang: Too common IMO. Everyone who knows nothing about cars but wants a pony car gets a Mustang.

GT-R: Technologically advanced, yes. But nothing about it evokes excitement in me like the R34 does.

Fiesta ST/Focus ST: I get it, fast hot hatches. But people treat them like they're the second coming of god or something, when in reality, all it is is a hopped up econobox.

No Prius Needed > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:15

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sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Spaceball-Two 07/30/2014 at 15:15

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Not sure if that was meant as an insult to the Cherokee, but since I like the VehiCROSS, I won't take it as one.

But yeah, I get why some people hate it. That front is UGLY.

trmoore09 > Manuél Ferrari 07/30/2014 at 15:15

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Jimmies status = RUFFLED!

Brian Silvestro > ly2v8-Brian 07/30/2014 at 15:15

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Have you SEEN my "M5s, Ranked" post that got FP'd? All the hate.

ly2v8-Brian > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:16

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Ford's modern day offerings. Well Ford in general. Except deuces, those are good.

Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 > Manuél Ferrari 07/30/2014 at 15:16

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Quick post the Star Wars, there is a disturbance meme

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > camaroboy68ss 07/30/2014 at 15:16

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Any specific reasons?

Brian Silvestro > trmoore09 07/30/2014 at 15:16

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I do love them in LSB or Dakar yellow.

No Prius Needed > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:16

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FRS/BRZ/GT86

I didn't care much for it when it came out. Still don't.

lone_liberal > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:17

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I'd never consider either the Miata or the S2000 but that's because I don't fit in those cars. For me it would be the WRX. I just does nothing for me.

HammerheadFistpunch > Spaceball-Two 07/30/2014 at 15:17

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I get it, its ugly...but is the KL Cherokee really an enthusiasts car? nope.

ly2v8-Brian > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:17

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Yes and in the middle of it all you and I had a gif fight.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > trmoore09 07/30/2014 at 15:17

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I don't love the S2000, but if given the choice between that and a Miata, I'd take the Honda.

MIATAAAA > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:17

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This and this:

I get it. I understand it. But - and it's beyond my knowledge as to why - I have absolutely zero desire to ever drive these.

Maybe I'd change my mind if I drove them. But I don't care.

Brian Silvestro > ly2v8-Brian 07/30/2014 at 15:17

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So many rustled jimmies...

*shudders*

HammerheadFistpunch > Nibbles 07/30/2014 at 15:17

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funny, Im into the aventador, but hate the murci.

trmoore09 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:18

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True story. All day, everyday.

Crest > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:18

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FRS, GTR and RX7……..they never did anything for me. I don't find them appealing in any way but I respect them for what they are.

dogisbadob > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:18

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The GTI, or most VW's in general.

Spaceball-Two > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:18

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I was being cheaky with the pic. Having owned several Jeeps I will never forgive them for the new design and those lamps.

yamahog > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:19

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Sorry Miata and Camaro, I'm just... meh.

trmoore09 > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:19

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HAHA! We bought an LSB. You mean Phoenix? Dakar was E36 color.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > No Prius Needed 07/30/2014 at 15:19

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Agreed. It's a car I respect and understand, but don't want at all.

MIATAAAA > Spaceball-Two 07/30/2014 at 15:19

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And this is going to send me to Craigslist looking for used Vehicrosses for the remainder of the day....

Spaceball-Two > HammerheadFistpunch 07/30/2014 at 15:20

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I guess it depends on perspective.

Brian Silvestro > trmoore09 07/30/2014 at 15:20

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Same shit dammit!

thebigbossyboss > Spaceball-Two 07/30/2014 at 15:20

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If you hate the ISUZU Vehicross then I hate you.

Just kidding. sort of.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 07/30/2014 at 15:20

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You take it back! My FiST is so the best!

ly2v8-Brian > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:20

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here's a cookie to do it again. I enjoyed the amount of laughs I got out of the large quantities of butthurt.

trmoore09 > Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 07/30/2014 at 15:21

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I agree about the 350/370. GTR is on a whole other level.

PS9 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:21

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The hype touted it as the second coming of Jesus christ, who would stand unopposed in a market segment all it's own with no valid comparisons to draw against pre-existing lesser cars elsewhere.

The reality is a hardtop Miata that's slightly underpowered and slightly overpriced. Meh.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > yamahog 07/30/2014 at 15:21

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It would seem I'm not alone in my feelings about the Miata. Not by a long shot.

Brian Silvestro > ly2v8-Brian 07/30/2014 at 15:22

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All we need is for someone to FP this post.

Nibbles > HammerheadFistpunch 07/30/2014 at 15:22

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I could probably make exception for the Aventador. Maybe.

thebigbossyboss > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:22

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Volkswagen Golfs. Any and or all versions.

I don't hate golf's, I don't see golf drivers and think they're dicks, I just don't get the appeal.

"Here's a pretty expensive hatchback that likes to break down a lot" Uh. Ok.

RallyWrench > Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 07/30/2014 at 15:23

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I've done loads of work on 350s, they do respond really well to aftermarket tuning, but in comparison the 370 is a night & day difference. I wouldn't want a stock one, and the first thing I'd do is de-lawyer the alignment, but the chassis is much better, the engine much more responsive, the steering is better, etc. I mean, it's built to a price, for sure. But for that price, it's pretty good. Better than the Hyundai Genesis coupe, for my money. The Mustang GT is the Z's biggest problem, because in that price bracket I don't know why you'd buy anything else.

Brian Silvestro > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 07/30/2014 at 15:23

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u wot

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Crest 07/30/2014 at 15:23

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Jayhawk Jake > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:23

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Any BMW. I've never driven one so maybe that's the problem, but I don't find them attractive or interesting in any way. The only one I like is the i8, but that's only because it looks futuristic

saabstory | fixes bikes, breaks cars > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:23

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This ugly motherfucker:

trmoore09 > camaroboy68ss 07/30/2014 at 15:23

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So you'd take a chevy aveo over a new Viper just because it's a chevy? Interesting.....

camaroboy68ss > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:23

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all I have ever owned is Chevys. My grandfather owns nothing but Chevys. I have a hot rod Ford but its all Chevy powered. I just love Chevy motors and honestly I never any real issues quality in my own cars family members.

Thunderbee - Has the engine that kids like > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:23

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Fiesta ST. It's a fantastic piece of kit no doubt, but makes me go from 0 to flaccid in no time at all.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > saabstory | fixes bikes, breaks cars 07/30/2014 at 15:25

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Interesting. I figured any complaints towards the last RX-7 would be based on "soul", not styling. Matter of opinion I guess.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > camaroboy68ss 07/30/2014 at 15:26

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Have you driven a lot of other stuff?

Jayhawk Jake > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:26

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Have you driven one?

They leave quite the impression IMO.

Spoon II > MIATAAAA 07/30/2014 at 15:26

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I really want to find one of those bad boys

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > saabstory | fixes bikes, breaks cars 07/30/2014 at 15:26

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trmoore09 > WRXforScience 07/30/2014 at 15:26

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The viper has always weighed between 3300 and 3400 lbs roughly... that's not too hefty.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jayhawk Jake 07/30/2014 at 15:27

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No, I actually haven't. I feel like I should sometime.

camaroboy68ss > trmoore09 07/30/2014 at 15:27

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Yep, one time I was at the new auto show and the local Ferrari dealer brought a Enzo and there was always a crowd around it. My grandfather and I were looking at it and told him someone could give it to me but id drive it straight to a dealer to get a camaro ( I would too) . The guys next me eyes went as big as dinner plates and his jaw hit the floor. He then got a little angry.

Wishin & workin for an E39 M5 > RallyWrench 07/30/2014 at 15:27

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I drove that car at the very extent of its abilities, on Pilot Sport PS2's, well over the limit and deliberately trying to spin it, I guess kudos for building a chassis that can prevent that, but I seriously mean I was being an absolute knob and it didn't give me the kind of feedback I was looking for, maybe it was a general lack of mid-range torque or something, your guess is as good as mine or better more likely.

yamahog > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:28

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I've driven CrzRsn's and done a ridealong with him in an autocross. Nyet. (sorry, honey).

Forgetful > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:29

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Mustangs. So many bleach-blonde, 40 something divorcees.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Brian Silvestro 07/30/2014 at 15:29

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Manuél Ferrari > Jayhawk Jake 07/30/2014 at 15:30

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:O

mazda616 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:30

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I'm tired of hearing about the damn Hellcat. It has eleventy bajillion horsepower and sounds nice, yes. But at the end of the day, to me it's a $70,000 Dodge Challenger. Property values are low around here, yes, but I paid $68,000 for my move-in ready house. And it has just a touch more space and usability than the Challenger.

Brian Silvestro > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 07/30/2014 at 15:31

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MIATAAAA > Spoon II 07/30/2014 at 15:31

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There's one for sale right by me! http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/4546456448…

MUST. RESIST. TEMPTATION.

Alfalfa > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:32

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BMW and Audi. Awesome performance? Yes. But just about everything else about them feels so yawn-inducing. There are a few outliers that I love (Z3, 100 s coupe, r8), but the rest are boring.

camaroboy68ss > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/30/2014 at 15:32

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a couple fox 5.0 stangs, a challenger, new charger, couple Mini's. I rode in a bunch of other cars. I have never had a desire to drive anything but a Chevy.

trmoore09 > camaroboy68ss 07/30/2014 at 15:33

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That's because trading in an Enzo for a Camaro would be insane.

saabstory | fixes bikes, breaks cars > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 07/30/2014 at 15:33

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I wanted this reaction. I just think it's mostly ugly. Not motherfuckin' ugly. It's pretty damn ugly though.

2222222222212 > PS9 07/30/2014 at 15:33

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I think the hype was justified. This site is a conduit for hype, so its unfair to say its undeserving of at least a few ZOMG! return of the light weight rwd coupe!

But i'm with you on the core sentiment. I'm 'meh' on it after seeing how supressed it was by both makers. No STi? That was a shitty move.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > MIATAAAA 07/30/2014 at 15:34

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Good thing it's not yellow, or I'd be on a plane to Philly right now.